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Do Profits Diminish Medical Care?

Government is the real source of health care distortion

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Published: 19 August 2009
Do Profits Diminish Medical Care?

I recently visited a doctor whose son was a philosophy major.  During a late-night discussion on medicine, the young man declared that profits “have no place in medical care.”  He went on: “It is immoral to profit over the sickness of someone else.”

I said nothing at the time, although Jane Orient later told me that I should have told him that doctors don’t profit from an illness; instead, they earn a profit (or have the opportunity for profit) when they attempt to help cure the illness or at least alleviate some of patient’s problems.  For that matter, my mechanic does not profit because my car has broken down; he earns a profit when he tries to fix the problem so I can have my car back in good shape.

The problem is not just with misidentifying why someone might profit; the problem is that most people do not understand the very nature of economic profit, nor do they understand that profits actually make their own lives better when they are earned in a free market.  Instead, their reaction is captured in a recent column by Cynthia Tucker, the editorial page editor of the virulently anti-capitalist Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

The for-profit health insurance industry is in the business of maximizing profits for their shareholders, and the only way they can do that is to hold down the payments they make for medical care. That means they spend a lot of their time (and a lot of their money) figuring out ways to deny claims.

She adds:

At recent townhall-style forums held by members of Congress or administration officials, some belligerent tea-baggers have held up signs saying, “What’s wrong with profit?” The answer is this: It has no place in the health insurance industry. It distorts and disrupts the provisions of health care, adding costs without adding quality of care.

The health care market doesn’t function like the market for automobiles or artichokes or flat-screen TVs. If you don’t like the price, you just don’t buy. But you walk away from expensive health insurance at your own risk.

Before answering this statement, I need to point out that I do not believe that the third-party insurance system for paying for most routine medical care is a good thing, and if there is any distorting factor in medical care, it is the proliferation of third-party payments.  (I will add that if we had such third-party payments for groceries, we would have a “grocery crisis,” as well.)

Nonetheless, Tucker is wrong about the role of profits, including those of  health-insurance companies.  Now her reasoning appeals to the “person on the street,” but that does not make it right.  She is saying that (1) health-insurance companies earn income from their premiums, and (2) the more claims they deny, the more they profit, since they pay out less money.

The first thing to note is that if health care is a scarce good, then the market for it will function like the market for automobiles, artichokes, and flat-screen TVs.  In fact, if the market for care were not so heavily regulated by government, and if government were not intervening through its own payment programs like Medicare, people would have more choices and face lower real costs for care just as they do with nearly everything else that has been improved by capitalism and, yes, the profit system.

Second, profits do not “distort” a market (unless the government provides perverse incentives, as we recently saw in the Wall Street meltdown).  Profits and losses serve as a mechanism by which entrepreneurs are able to direct resources to their highest valued uses, and they send signals to producers as to what is working and what is not.  If there are distortions in any market, they are caused by government (such as states mandating health insurers to pay for politically popular treatments that drive up costs for everyone else).

In a capitalist system, people prosper by providing goods and services that people need and want.  It is not the free market that creates distortions; it is and always will be government.

16 Comments »

  1. Long ago a friend and I were discussing the Canadian Healthcare system and we noted that it makes far less sense for the government to buy medical care, which some people will need often but most people need it sparingly, in order to be a compassionate society when people could be required to pay for their own healthcare and get free food.

  2. Living Proof that a PhD doesn’t mean you know what the heck you’re talking about.
    Wrong on so many levels, I hardly know where to begin.
    Health Care and capitalism do not go well together. this statement is just about as obvious as the nose on your face.
    If it went well together, I think the USA would be ranked far higher in the standard public health measurements of industrialized nations, but no, we’re ranked something like 37th.
    And who pray tell are the countries above us? Well gee, surprise surprise, they are all countries with government run health care programs.
    Don’t be myopic professor, you can have your own opinion, but facts are facts.
    Our system is in a shambles and capitalistic competition is a strong hindrance to it improvement.
    This is especially true in rural areas where hospitals put profits above patient care all the time. In my small town we have two hospitals and the patients suffer because neither can afford to pay for the doctors and equipment they need to provide the full service we deserve. Why? because they’re obligation is to the shareholders and investors and not to the patients.

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  4. Jocko,

    A lot more goes into the life expectancy statistics than the quality or availability of medical care. In the US, we have more traffic fatalities, violent crime and obesity than the other countries we’re being compared with.

    For a fair comparison of our arrangements for paying for medical care, you need to look strictly at the situations where medical care can affect the outcome. When someone gets breast cancer, cervical cancer or prostate cancer, how long can they expect to live? If you do the comparison properly, the US has a vastly superior healthcare system. Like you said, facts are facts.

  5. Let’s consider 2 cases of single payer health care; 1 in Canada and 1 in Great Britain. In Canada, if you are a diabetic 55 years or older and need kidney dialysis; you will have to come to the U.S. to get it and will have to pay for it out of packet. The Canadian Health Care denies treatment of some chronic diseases for those patients age 55 or older. In Great Britain; for senior patients, they use a formula to determine a patients’ value to society, past, present and future to decide whether or not to treat the patient. A similar formula has been proposed by Ezekiel Emanuel, brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, for Obama’s health care proposal. In both cases; it is illegal for the patient to pay, out of pocket, for medical services in country. In Essense, without treatment, the patient is condemed to an angonizing death all in the name of saving money!

    S THIS WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT, PULLING THE PLUG ON THOSE WHO MADE THEIR LIVES
    POSSIBLE???? TO VALUE MONEY OVER LIFE IS ABSOLUTELY EVIL!!!

  6. Bill J,

    I disagree with your statement that valuing money over life is evil, even though I’m on your side against the Democrats’ plans for nationalizing medicine.

    The main reason I disagree with your statement is that it’s categorical. How much life? How much money? If a million dollar treatment could extend my life by 3 minutes, I think I’d rather have the million dollars go to my heirs. Money vs. life is an incremental tradeoff, not something that will be absolutely true for every person in every situation.

    So the real evil is not in valuing money over life; it’s in moving that decision to the political sphere. Making the decision between money and life is something everyone should get to do for themselves, taking into account their own means, values, and situation. It shouldn’t be any of “society’s” business.

    Fundamentally, medical care is a scarce resource, so it will have to be rationed somehow. We can either ration by politics (e.g. the “death panels” of socialist systems) or by price.

  7. Those who have a violent philosophical aversion to profit are the ones creating the system where goods and services don’t get to who needs them.

    Even in those who have “purely” philanthropic or altruistic intentions PROFIT when those intentions are realized. That’s the return on their input. The return on others input is the ability to make a living. The more you contribute to others, the higher your profit.

    Would you work if you didn’t get paid? You might, if you PROFITED strictly from the enjoyment of work. But most would not, or would do something they loved, and get the “love” as their reward.

    Those who want socialized medicine want goods and services and “someone else” to do the work, and for those who do the work not to profit. That is SLAVERY.

    And we’re not 37th in the world in health care. WHO says we are, and the WHO model penalizes us for not having a more socialized model. It’s a circular argument:

    http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9236

  8. I am curious to know how those in opposition to “profits” in the health care industry are defining that term. If profit is the amount of revenue received in excess of the total costs of providing the good or service, then I would ask the opponents, “What gets included in the costs?”

    What is the appropriate amount in excess of the cost of education, office space, equipment and staff that a physician “should be able to charge”? Apparently, nothing because that would be profit. Well, okay, maybe they don’t mean profit that literally and maybe they don’t want to apply their condemnation of profit in the healthcare “industry” to the doctors who might actually want to eat, live in a house and occasionally go out to dinner and a movie. So, how much excess over cost is okay and who decides that?

    Having allowed for the “workers” receiving revenue in excess of their costs, let’s look at those “evil” health care industrialists, the insurance companies, who are so successful at finding human beings who love to wring their hands, twirl their mustaches and deny widows and orphans the health care they “deserve” in order to increase the profits for shareholders. As the professor points out there has to be some mechanism for allocating health care service, and when third parties are the ones footing the bill there will be distortions in demand — generally speaking folks seem to like getting more of something they want or need when they are not paying for it. Since the third party payor system leads to higher than expected levels of demand, a governance or policing mechanism must be created to limit the amount of health care people can consume. That mechanism is a set of “standards” based on averages, lowest common denominators and historical observations. A consumer whose health care needs fall outside the bounds created by these limiting standards winds up in nasty conversations with the insurance company representative.

    That problem will not go away by replacing the private third party payers with a single public payer. It is true that, theoretically, an entity that does not need to receive revenue in excess of its costs can accept a lower price for its goods or services. So, theoretically, the government will operate the health care department/agency/bureau (no longer an industry) like a charity and charge for health care only what it costs it to produce the health care services.

    So, what does it cost the government? Taking away the “profits”, there are still doctors and nurses and orderlies and receptionists to pay and equipment and medicines to buy. Will the government simply accept what those people ask for in compensation or will the government seek to protect the American taxpayers and negotiate with them the lowest possible prices? How would the government control costs; award contracts to the lowest bidding physician, set the price by fiat? What if a physician chooses to forego working at the established prices or declines to bid on a contract? It is hard to see how the hoped for high quality health care is maintained under such a system. So, as bad as the current arrangements may be, it seems unlikely that a single third payer system would be better. If it’s a toss up , why not try it?

    The answer is that when one party in a transaction just happens to possess police and taxing power things get scary. If health care is treated as a “right” and something all citizens “deserve”, what prevents the government from forcing health care providers from to provide their services pursuant to whatever terms the government decides? Do doctors and nurses become subject to laws that prohibit them from going on strike or that otherwise require them to perform their “duties” whether they like the price they receive or not? Does the government draft doctors and nurses into service? If the government does not exercise its power in that way, how does it guaranty the “rights” of the “deserving” citizenry to health care? What would such a system do to the incentives and motivations of people considering a career as a doctor or nurse? What would that mean to the quality?

  9. Jocko, I hope you will read some of the criticisms of the WHO rankings. They have a political bias in the first place favoring socialist health systems.
    Life expectancy is not a fair judgement of medical care since many other factors are at play. Some nations in the past have not counted death of infants in the first several days of life as we do, rather they treated them as stillborn. It is of interest however, to compare life expectancy form adult ages forward. while still not always reflective of medical care, we catch up or exceed others when starting at later years, 50>, 60>, etc. The best way to judge medical care is disease management outcome. here we are the best or near the best consistently.
    Kent, I have many times tried to get liberals to put a figure on what in their world a doctor should be paid. They will not answer me. They imply we are greedy, over paid, profit motivated, uncaring etc. but refuse to place a value on our services. For people that know all the answers, they don’t offer the one to that simple question. When bright young people are training for 11+ years after high school at a cost today of 200,000-300,000+ dollars, deferring earning potential until they are 32 or older, it is only fair to them they have some indication of the potential to ever get out of debt since a free market option is going to be denied them.

  10. We do not have a health care problem; our problem is in how we finance it. With government intervention in so many areas of the health care industry, the normal pricing mechanisms that would allow efficient allocation of health care services are distorted. “Third party pays” is a horrible way to finance health care, since the consumer doesn’t have the incentive to ration his own health care. Tax free medical savings accounts, coupled with high deductible “catastrophic insurance” is the best way that I can see to get out of this mess…

    The big question I have is: If the government succeeds in passing a public option, followed up by a single payer health care system, and a person is denied treatment by the government agencies responsible, would he be allowed to take his own money and purchase the treatment himself?

  11. Dr. Steve, It took me a few moments to get over the shock caused by realization that the “liberals” don’t have a figure at the ready for the question their “proposal” raises. No doubt there is an opportunity created here to employ a few hundred folks year after year to determine, review and update what the answer should be. The cost of that critical function will not be included in their calculation of the cost of providing health care of course. Oh, and let’s not forget the additions to the audit and compliance departments that will be required to assure no one is acting outside the permitted pricing scheme. Good luck Doc, you know it’s not too late to trade your stethoscope for calculator and your surgical mask for green eye shades.

  12. Kent, thanks for the suggestion of new career. At 61 I’m likely to hang it up. I fear for my young associates and today’s students.
    The comments to a blog by a local physician in my part of the country are truly frightening. Each time he writes about market solutions, government taking our rights , etc. the angry responses make me cringe. What percentage of the population this is I don’t know, but they are motivated by envy and revenge as well as being a product of our public education.

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