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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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Great information. I will surely drop by Brad Setser: Follow the Money &quot; Blog Archive &quot; How a US financial ... again soon....</description>
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<p>Great information. I will surely drop by Brad Setser: Follow the Money &#8221; Blog Archive &#8221; How a US financial &#8230; again soon&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: No Fee Work At Home Assembly Jobs</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 05:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: W. Sherman Turnage</title>
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		<dc:creator>W. Sherman Turnage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 03:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

It&#039;s almost too good to be true to see you now have a national instead of a state forum at a time like this. We look forward to your visit to Jacksonville later in March. You are starting to attract a following here – exactly as I intended. Let me go back further in history to our city&#039;s namesake for some direction in what to do: close the Fed. President Jackson took on forces stronger than any army he saw in the War of 1812 when he vetoed the charter for the second National Bank. The Rothschild family unleashed all their political will just short of war to keep their money making machine open, but he stood up to them and won. We can do the same. The mantra that has taken root in current economic discussions regarding banks and auto makers is &quot;they are too big to fail.&quot; The fear is there would be no other institution or company to assume the job and we would have aimless unemployed masses. Perhaps it&#039;s no accident we have a bank headquartered here in Jacksonville, Everbank, that is one of the strongest in the nation. Its board did not act foolishly to make bad loans. It has one of the strongest balance sheets. It is already a multi-state bank. If we were to follow Prof. Fekete&#039;s advice and capitalize Everbank with GOLD, they would easily outperform Bank of America. Indiana was correct in its assessment of Washington. Many states are now considering, and Oklahoma has adopted, resolutions reaffirming states&#039; rights under the 10th amendment. All of these efforts will eventually bear fruit.

To make the above happen, it will take everyone who cares about Liberty, as expounded in the Constitution, to rally their countrymen. FEE is an excellent vehicle to keep getting the message out. As the folly of the current &quot;Stimulus&quot; becomes clearer over the next couple of years, there will be many more ears willing to hear the message of liberty as the only viable alternative to social democracy deteriorating into a socialist nightmare. You wrote some years back about Are We Going the Way of Rome? The answer at this moment is yes, and we&#039;re beating them: 220 years to imminent collapse compared to over 400 for them. Note we won the race on coinage when President Johnson ordered silver to be removed from coins in 1964.

Keep getting the message out. Ron Paul showed there is a growing audience. Current events will undoubtedly grow the audience hungry for the message of liberty even larger.

Sherm Turnage
Jacksonville, FL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost too good to be true to see you now have a national instead of a state forum at a time like this. We look forward to your visit to Jacksonville later in March. You are starting to attract a following here – exactly as I intended. Let me go back further in history to our city&#8217;s namesake for some direction in what to do: close the Fed. President Jackson took on forces stronger than any army he saw in the War of 1812 when he vetoed the charter for the second National Bank. The Rothschild family unleashed all their political will just short of war to keep their money making machine open, but he stood up to them and won. We can do the same. The mantra that has taken root in current economic discussions regarding banks and auto makers is &#8220;they are too big to fail.&#8221; The fear is there would be no other institution or company to assume the job and we would have aimless unemployed masses. Perhaps it&#8217;s no accident we have a bank headquartered here in Jacksonville, Everbank, that is one of the strongest in the nation. Its board did not act foolishly to make bad loans. It has one of the strongest balance sheets. It is already a multi-state bank. If we were to follow Prof. Fekete&#8217;s advice and capitalize Everbank with GOLD, they would easily outperform Bank of America. Indiana was correct in its assessment of Washington. Many states are now considering, and Oklahoma has adopted, resolutions reaffirming states&#8217; rights under the 10th amendment. All of these efforts will eventually bear fruit.</p>
<p>To make the above happen, it will take everyone who cares about Liberty, as expounded in the Constitution, to rally their countrymen. FEE is an excellent vehicle to keep getting the message out. As the folly of the current &#8220;Stimulus&#8221; becomes clearer over the next couple of years, there will be many more ears willing to hear the message of liberty as the only viable alternative to social democracy deteriorating into a socialist nightmare. You wrote some years back about Are We Going the Way of Rome? The answer at this moment is yes, and we&#8217;re beating them: 220 years to imminent collapse compared to over 400 for them. Note we won the race on coinage when President Johnson ordered silver to be removed from coins in 1964.</p>
<p>Keep getting the message out. Ron Paul showed there is a growing audience. Current events will undoubtedly grow the audience hungry for the message of liberty even larger.</p>
<p>Sherm Turnage<br />
Jacksonville, FL</p>
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		<title>By: Paul McMahon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul McMahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

I agree with your sentiments completely.  But you answered David&#039;s question (what would you have us do?) with what you would do if you were a benevolent dictator.  Again, I (and probably all readers of this blog) would agree with those actions.  But my question is what can we do &lt;em&gt;in the world we actually inhabit&lt;em&gt;, complete with venal politicians and rent-seeking interest groups?  I&#039;m as frustrated as you are, but am feeling pretty helpless.  Politics seems to take place in the short term, but the damage being done here is long-term.  I share &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2009/02/give_back_my_wa.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Arnold Kling&#039;s&lt;/A&gt; rage -- hands off my wallet and my children&#039;s future!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>I agree with your sentiments completely.  But you answered David&#8217;s question (what would you have us do?) with what you would do if you were a benevolent dictator.  Again, I (and probably all readers of this blog) would agree with those actions.  But my question is what can we do <em>in the world we actually inhabit</em><em>, complete with venal politicians and rent-seeking interest groups?  I&#8217;m as frustrated as you are, but am feeling pretty helpless.  Politics seems to take place in the short term, but the damage being done here is long-term.  I share <a HREF="http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2009/02/give_back_my_wa.html" rel="nofollow"> Arnold Kling&#8217;s</a> rage &#8212; hands off my wallet and my children&#8217;s future!</em></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great place to start would be a true flat tax with a low tax rate and no deductions. Then everyone is treated the same, no rent-seaking. Politicians would have less leverage over the weak public. As a nation we would still need to cut government programs but changing the tax system would be relatively easy. Eliminate capital gains tax and investment in sound business, including banks, will return. Of course many jobs in the tax industry would be lost, but that is creative destruction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great place to start would be a true flat tax with a low tax rate and no deductions. Then everyone is treated the same, no rent-seaking. Politicians would have less leverage over the weak public. As a nation we would still need to cut government programs but changing the tax system would be relatively easy. Eliminate capital gains tax and investment in sound business, including banks, will return. Of course many jobs in the tax industry would be lost, but that is creative destruction.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorin</title>
		<link>http://www.fee.org/articles/trillion-wrongs/comment-page-1/#comment-1631</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the whole problem facing the economy will only be corrected if the underlying cause is changed. This in my opinion is the debt money system which we have embraced since the establishment of the Federal Reserve System of central banking. The hiding of the tax commonly known as the National Debt allows the government to enslave the people today and in the future to a debt burden we did not chose to accept. Until we the people take back our freedom form this oppression we will be under the control which the Declaration of Independence sought to get rid of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the whole problem facing the economy will only be corrected if the underlying cause is changed. This in my opinion is the debt money system which we have embraced since the establishment of the Federal Reserve System of central banking. The hiding of the tax commonly known as the National Debt allows the government to enslave the people today and in the future to a debt burden we did not chose to accept. Until we the people take back our freedom form this oppression we will be under the control which the Declaration of Independence sought to get rid of.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 04:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  I love the quote from the House Concurrent Resolution No. 2 of the 85th General Assembly of the State of Indiana.

Too bad no one listened to them in 1947.

http://www.effor.com/blog/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  I love the quote from the House Concurrent Resolution No. 2 of the 85th General Assembly of the State of Indiana.</p>
<p>Too bad no one listened to them in 1947.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard</title>
		<link>http://www.fee.org/articles/trillion-wrongs/comment-page-1/#comment-1550</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is so very sad. I have read the brave words of our Founders in grade school, but they mean nothing to today&#039;s American. All have their hands out. It makes me so frustrated, I wish I could succeed as a person, declare my quarter acre a free state, and start over.

When it all ends in tyranny, future peoples will write about how we did it to ourselves. And when I carefully lay it out in a logical format for others, they simply refuse to take the blue pill. They rather live in the fiction that government cares about them and takes care of them. 

I think the most disheartening is the youth of today. Where is the rebelliousness that is supposed to be there. &quot;What do we want? Old age pensions! When do we want them? When we are 65!&quot; Hardly inspiring!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so very sad. I have read the brave words of our Founders in grade school, but they mean nothing to today&#8217;s American. All have their hands out. It makes me so frustrated, I wish I could succeed as a person, declare my quarter acre a free state, and start over.</p>
<p>When it all ends in tyranny, future peoples will write about how we did it to ourselves. And when I carefully lay it out in a logical format for others, they simply refuse to take the blue pill. They rather live in the fiction that government cares about them and takes care of them. </p>
<p>I think the most disheartening is the youth of today. Where is the rebelliousness that is supposed to be there. &#8220;What do we want? Old age pensions! When do we want them? When we are 65!&#8221; Hardly inspiring!</p>
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		<title>By: Alexa M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexa M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Growing up in the public education system, I&#039;m constantly being told by teachers that &quot;capitialism failed&quot; and &quot;the freemarket is bad.&quot; We&#039;re taught that government HAS to intervene, no questions asked (Here&#039;s one person they haven&#039;t convinced). I believe this is part of the reason why people aren&#039;t in an uproar about this &quot;economic stimulus package.&quot; The first time we can see this mentality of the &quot;take from the rich and give to the poor,&quot; is, to a large extent, during FDR&#039;s New Deal, though this is not the first to be sure. Since then, irresponsibility has been allowed through government bailouts for individuals and companies. The free market demands responsibilty. Government can&#039;t regulate who&#039;s being responsible. They can just give out checks that they&#039;ve taken from taxpayers and hope they save the economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growing up in the public education system, I&#8217;m constantly being told by teachers that &#8220;capitialism failed&#8221; and &#8220;the freemarket is bad.&#8221; We&#8217;re taught that government HAS to intervene, no questions asked (Here&#8217;s one person they haven&#8217;t convinced). I believe this is part of the reason why people aren&#8217;t in an uproar about this &#8220;economic stimulus package.&#8221; The first time we can see this mentality of the &#8220;take from the rich and give to the poor,&#8221; is, to a large extent, during FDR&#8217;s New Deal, though this is not the first to be sure. Since then, irresponsibility has been allowed through government bailouts for individuals and companies. The free market demands responsibilty. Government can&#8217;t regulate who&#8217;s being responsible. They can just give out checks that they&#8217;ve taken from taxpayers and hope they save the economy.</p>
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		<title>By: D.B. Cooper</title>
		<link>http://www.fee.org/articles/trillion-wrongs/comment-page-1/#comment-1529</link>
		<dc:creator>D.B. Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I ran my personal and business finances like our government, I would be thrown in jail!</description>
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		<title>By: Lawrence W. Reed</title>
		<link>http://www.fee.org/articles/trillion-wrongs/comment-page-1/#comment-1515</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence W. Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You nailed it!</description>
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		<title>By: Dane Short</title>
		<link>http://www.fee.org/articles/trillion-wrongs/comment-page-1/#comment-1512</link>
		<dc:creator>Dane Short</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would seem to me that if an individual spends more then they make, then there is a problem. If an individual gets to the point that they are spending more than they are making, then generally we may understand that habits of saving and investing in tomorrow have disintegrated. An enjoyable side-effect is that businesses become lazy and inefficient because we pay their price. We have taught ourselves to live for the here and the now and take no thought for tomorrow. Now our government will mirror our habits and hope it will fix the mentality? Have we no understanding? Government, business, and individuals have become unaccountable but government and business are also made of individual. If we would have change then we must begin in the private arena. Let us track our own finances, let us do without niceties, let us be more efficient with our work or with our own businesses, let us be better. When we give away our problems they only grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem to me that if an individual spends more then they make, then there is a problem. If an individual gets to the point that they are spending more than they are making, then generally we may understand that habits of saving and investing in tomorrow have disintegrated. An enjoyable side-effect is that businesses become lazy and inefficient because we pay their price. We have taught ourselves to live for the here and the now and take no thought for tomorrow. Now our government will mirror our habits and hope it will fix the mentality? Have we no understanding? Government, business, and individuals have become unaccountable but government and business are also made of individual. If we would have change then we must begin in the private arena. Let us track our own finances, let us do without niceties, let us be more efficient with our work or with our own businesses, let us be better. When we give away our problems they only grow.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence W. Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence W. Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly wouldn&#039;t do more of what got us into this mess in the first place, so instead of spending more, I&#039;d slash the size and burden of government, get rid of agencies like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and their enablers at the Fed, and let Chapter 11 take care of the firms that can&#039;t make it. That would be rough in the near term but would save us a lot of future grief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly wouldn&#8217;t do more of what got us into this mess in the first place, so instead of spending more, I&#8217;d slash the size and burden of government, get rid of agencies like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and their enablers at the Fed, and let Chapter 11 take care of the firms that can&#8217;t make it. That would be rough in the near term but would save us a lot of future grief.</p>
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		<title>By: David Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would you have us do. I agree that tax breaks, what amount to $8 per citizen is not going to put much of a dent in the economy, and furhter that the &quot;spend&quot; dollars will get into the hands of those who need it less. But what do we do? There is no ethics or integrity left in American leadership, or is there? Maybe we let Chysler fail and GM go into chap 11. Maybe we shoot those &quot;zombie&quot; banks and turn them to dust. Maybe we let the market correct itself, or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would you have us do. I agree that tax breaks, what amount to $8 per citizen is not going to put much of a dent in the economy, and furhter that the &#8220;spend&#8221; dollars will get into the hands of those who need it less. But what do we do? There is no ethics or integrity left in American leadership, or is there? Maybe we let Chysler fail and GM go into chap 11. Maybe we shoot those &#8220;zombie&#8221; banks and turn them to dust. Maybe we let the market correct itself, or not.</p>
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